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- [離任] 淺藍雪離任管理員。
- [人事] 第一屆仲裁委員會選舉將於今年稍後時間舉行,共有12名編者已獲確認參選資格。候選人問答階段現正進行,誠邀編者踴躍參與。
- [人事] SCP-2000、ATannedBurger、0xDeadbeef、S8321414、ASid獲提名為管理員,Peacearth獲提名為行政員、監督員,歡迎踴躍參與提問和討論。
- [廣告] 維基百科拉美月正在舉辦,歡迎參與。
- [公告] 修改條目所有權方針已經通過。
- [公告] 新設活動組織者用戶組方針、修訂管理人員申請指引、傀儡方針新增「在退出狀態下編輯」章節、跨年份體育賽季的條目命名、規範「國民政府」、「國民黨政府」及「國民黨當局」等詞的使用及修訂《維基百科不是什麼》方針的部分條文正在公示,如有意見請儘快提出。
- [討論] 互助客棧方針區正在討論活動組織者用戶組相關權限、擴充ITNR獲選類別、仲裁委員會的流程及延長RfA提名窗口,請踴躍參與討論。
- [討論] 互助客棧其他區正在討論本地部署安全投票及相關權限、管理人員任免制度檢討等事、設置仲裁委員會的wiki站點和相關郵件隊列及修訂IP封禁豁免權授予者方針,請踴躍參與討論。
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《網絡數據安全管理條例》公布
[編輯]先前討論
- Help_talk:如何訪問維基百科/存檔3#網際網路信息服務管理辦法(修訂草案徵求意見稿)
- Help_talk:如何訪問維基百科/存檔3#網絡數據安全管理條例(徵求意見稿)
- Help_talk:如何訪問維基百科#《網絡數據安全管理條例(草案)》和Unblock-zh.org
新聞
新華社北京9月30日電 國務院總理李強日前簽署國務院令,公布《網絡數據安全管理條例》(以下簡稱《條例》),自2025年1月1日起施行。[1]
腳註
- ^ 新華社. 李强签署国务院令 公布《网络数据安全管理条例》. 中國政府網.
- ^ 中华人民共和国国务院令 第790号. 中國政府網.
簽名
Bovemdep(留言) 2024年9月30日 (一) 11:27 (UTC)
- 刪掉原先的第四十一條我是沒想到……不過原第四十一條在de facto層面上來說有在執行這一點還是不變的。--💊✖️2️⃣3️⃣(留言) 2024年9月30日 (一) 13:53 (UTC)
- 幾乎整個條例都回爐重造了……另外現在執行的是《國務院關於修改和廢止部分行政法規的決定 (2024年)》,刪去《中華人民共和國計算機信息網絡國際聯網管理暫行規定》第六條第一款中的「郵電部」--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年9月30日 (一) 15:43 (UTC)
- 第三十九條 國家採取措施,防範、處置網絡數據跨境安全風險和威脅。任何個人、組織不得提供專門用於破壞、避開技術措施的程序、工具等;明知他人從事破壞、避開技術措施等活動的,不得為其提供技術支持或者幫助。
- 耐人尋味。--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月2日 (三) 14:20 (UTC)
- 無對應罰則。--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月2日 (三) 14:24 (UTC)
- 這條並沒有明確指「翻牆」或者類似活動。如果是的話,這似乎將本地反代、域前置等規避措施(甚至hosts?)也納入違法範疇了。(本來僅有VPN、代理在利用「違規信道」條款來處罰,理論上這樣的處理也是不合法的。如果說全部統一成「破壞、避開技術措施」……有點難評。不過不清楚為什麼要用「專門」一詞,眾所周知VPN、代理最初、最基本的功能就是保護隱私,難道我上維基百科就不能保護隱私了?)無罰則也有意思,但不排除後來加上不是嗎 ——魔琴[身份聲明 留言 貢獻 新手2023] 2024年10月2日 (三) 15:09 (UTC)
- 我也注意到這一條可以被解讀為與網絡審查相關,不過當時出于謹慎沒說出來。還是那句話,有沒有明文規定並不重要。--💊✖️2️⃣3️⃣(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 02:51 (UTC)
- Re@Liu116:在某些情況下很重要,比如要不要在首頁公告欄給大陸用戶加個警告和免責聲明--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 11:07 (UTC)
- 不需要,有Wikipedia:編輯維基百科危險嗎這個頁面來提示用戶,並且在更多頁面裡面合理添加指向該論述的內鏈足夠。即便沒有明確的條文規定,執法人員還是可以以各種原因給你強加違法依據進行處罰。--💊✖️2️⃣3️⃣(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 11:30 (UTC)
- 請參考前面的已有討論
- --Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 11:50 (UTC)
- 註:此留言已被原作者(User:Liu116)移除。2024年10月4日 (五) 11:13 (UTC)
- Re@Liu116::我知道呀,所以這個討論我發的消息區而不是別的什麼區--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月4日 (五) 06:30 (UTC)
- 不需要,有Wikipedia:編輯維基百科危險嗎這個頁面來提示用戶,並且在更多頁面裡面合理添加指向該論述的內鏈足夠。即便沒有明確的條文規定,執法人員還是可以以各種原因給你強加違法依據進行處罰。--💊✖️2️⃣3️⃣(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 11:30 (UTC)
- Re@Liu116:在某些情況下很重要,比如要不要在首頁公告欄給大陸用戶加個警告和免責聲明--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 11:07 (UTC)
- Re@魔琴:境外的「反動有害信息」應該不算「網絡數據跨境安全風險和威脅「吧,這個」安全風險和威脅」應該只包括「網絡數據跨境「過程中的--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 11:18 (UTC)
- 我覺得是「網絡數據跨境(導致的)安全風險和威脅」而不是「網絡數據跨境(過程中的)安全風險和威脅」,行政執法單位大概率不會理解此中不同,具體執法中也沒有見到「計算機信息網絡直接進行國際聯網,必須使用郵電部國家公用電信網提供的國際出入口信道。 任何單位和個人不得自行建立或者使用其他信道進行國際聯網。」會按照專業含義進行解讀,翻牆還是要被抓。----Cat on Mars 2024年10月3日 (四) 15:02 (UTC)
- 我也注意到這一條可以被解讀為與網絡審查相關,不過當時出于謹慎沒說出來。還是那句話,有沒有明文規定並不重要。--💊✖️2️⃣3️⃣(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 02:51 (UTC)
- 還有
- 第八條 任何個人、組織不得利用網絡數據從事非法活動,不得從事竊取或者以其他非法方式獲取網絡數據、非法出售或者非法向他人提供網絡數據等非法網絡數據處理活動。
- 任何個人、組織不得提供專門用於從事前款非法活動的程序、工具;明知他人從事前款非法活動的,不得為其提供網際網路接入、伺服器託管、網絡存儲、通訊傳輸等技術支持,或者提供廣告推廣、支付結算等幫助。
- 不知道身在中國大陸的管理員為中國大陸編輯者提供IPBE算不算其中的「明知他人從事前款非法活動的,不得為其提供網際網路接入、伺服器託管、網絡存儲、通訊傳輸等技術支持,或者提供廣告推廣、支付結算等幫助。」--忒有錢 🌊塩水あります🐳(留言) 2024年10月11日 (五) 16:45 (UTC)
- 耐人尋味。--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月2日 (三) 14:20 (UTC)
之前的討論節選
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--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月3日 (四) 11:51 (UTC)
- 艾特一下之前討論比較活躍的@Shizhao、AnYiLin、桐生ここ、不爱思考得猪、Cwek、忒有钱,請問你們有什麼看法?--Bovemdep(留言) 2024年10月11日 (五) 11:58 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: September 2024
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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin October Issue 1
[編輯]Upcoming and current events and conversations
Talking: 2024 continues
- WikiArabia Conference 2024 will be held in Muscat, Oman, from October 25 to 27.
- WikiConvention francophone 2024 will be held in Québec, Canada, from November 2 to 3.
- AffCom, Case Review Committee (CRC) and the Ombuds commission (OC) are seeking new member applications from October 14.
Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Research · Web · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on Mediawiki.org
- Tech News: Updates on Dark Mode, Vector 2022 skin, CampaignEvents extension, and more on tech news.
- Translation suggestion: Sign up to participate in the test project, Translation suggestions: Topic-based & Community-defined lists, which will help organisers identify and add relevant content based on high-impact topics to their Wikipedia.
- Wikifunctions: Status updates from September 26.
- Wikipedia Apps: Check out the latest issue of the Apps Quarterly Newsletter!
Annual Goals Progress on Equity
See also a list of all movement events: on Meta
- WikiWomen Summit: Event summary at Wikimania 2024.
- Let's Connect: Watch recordings of the session Technology for Language Diversity in Wikimedia.
- WikiLearn: The latest online learning opportunities created by Wikimedians for Wikimedians.
- Indonesia: Training for Indonesian Wikipedia Administrators to Safeguard Knowledge Integrity Ahead of the Regional Elections
Annual Goals Progress on Safety & Integrity
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog
- Mexico: Wikimedia Foundation files amicus brief in Mexico urging continued use of intermediary liability protections for user-generated content in Richter v. Google.
- Paraguay: Wikimedia Foundation to Paraguayan Supreme Court: Do not allow people to abuse the law to suppress legitimate information
- Global: Celebrating a legal victory in Germany against censorship, reflections on Open Culture strategic workshop, and more global advocacy updates.
Board and Board committee updates
See Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard · Affiliations Committee Newsletter
- Board Governance: Update from Wikimedia Foundation Board Governance Committee, a proposal to ask for help and co-creation in Movement Charter Mapping Exercise.
Other Movement curated newsletters & news
See also: Diff blog · Goings-on · Wikimedia World · Signpost (en) · Kurier (de) · Actualités du Wiktionnaire (fr) · Regards sur l』actualité de la Wikimedia (fr) · Wikimag (fr) · other newsletters:
- Topics: Education · GLAM · The Wikipedia Library
- Wikimedia Projects: Milestones · Wikidata
- Regions: Central and Eastern Europe
Previous editions of this bulletin are on Meta. Let askcacwikimedia.org know if you have any feedback or suggestions for improvement!
MediaWiki message delivery 2024年10月10日 (四) 23:30 (UTC)
2024年維基媒體基金會理事會選舉的初步結果
[編輯]大家好,
我們在此感謝所有參與2024年維基媒體基金會理事會選舉的人士。來自180個以上維基媒體專案的近6000名社群成員已投票。
以下四位候選人得票最多:
儘管這些候選人已透過投票得出名次,但他們仍需要被任命為維基媒體基金會理事會成員。他們需要成功通過背景調查,並滿足章程中規定的資格。新的維基媒體基金會理事會成員將於2024年12月舉行的下一次維基媒體基金會理事會會議上任命。
祝好,
選舉委員會和維基媒體基金會理事會選舉工作小組
MPossoupe_(WMF) 2024年10月14日 (一) 08:26 (UTC)
- 理事會仍缺乏亞非地區人士參與,且一時間恐難改變。—— Eric Liu 創造は生命(留言・留名・學生會) 2024年10月14日 (一) 09:01 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #649
[編輯]week leading up to 2024-10-14. Missed the previous one? See issue #648
- Upcoming:
- Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group session 15 October, 2024: We have our next LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Session on Tuesday, 15 October, 2024 at 9am PT / 12pm ET / 16:00 UTC / 6pm CEST (Time zone converter). https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1729008000 Christa Strickler will be our first Project Series lead with her joint project with the Wikidata Religion & Theology Community of Practice to contribute biographical data to Wikidata from the IRFA database https://irfa.paris/en/en-learn-about-a-missionary/ using the Mix』n』Match tool. We are excited to learn more about this project, provide a forum for discussion and shared learning, and lend a hand while building new skills. Event page: [1]
- The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 16th October 2024 at 18:00 CEST in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
- Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday: We already have 30 events scheduled on the list 😍. As a reminder, when your event is ready, don't forget to:
- create a wikipage with more information about the event, participants list, etc.
- add your event to the global calendar and the map, following the instructions here: Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday/Run an event/Schedule
Press, articles, blog posts, videos
- Blogs
- Small data, slow data − a SNAIL approach to Wikidata: discusses the value of small, carefully curated datasets in the era of big data. It emphasizes the importance of taking a methodical, "snail-paced" approach to data collection and analysis, which can lead to more meaningful and accurate insights. The blogpost also highlights how this approach can complement the broader trends of big data, ensuring that detailed, high-quality data is not overlooked.
- Papers
- "WoolNet: Finding and Visualising Paths in Knowledge Graphs" given two or more entities requested by a user, the system finds and visualises paths that connect these entities, forming a topical subgraph of Wikidata (Torres Gutiérrez and Hogan)
- Videos
- Introductory workshop to Wikidata within the framework of the Latin America Contest in Wikidata 2024 (in Italian)
- GeoPython 2024: Bridging Worlds: Python-Powered Integration of Wikidata and OpenStreetMap: This talk explores Python-powered tools that integrate Wikidata with OpenStreetMap, allowing users to link entries between the two platforms to enhance geospatial data accuracy while navigating legal and ethical challenges of cross-platform data sharing.
- LD4 2024 Conference: Wikidata and Open Data: Enhancing the Hausa Community's Digital Presence
- Dynamic Mapping using Collaborative Knowledge Graphs: Real-Time SKOS Mapping from Wikidata: This presentation introduces a workflow using SPARQL queries to dynamically map live Wikidata data to SKOS concepts, featuring a Python tool that converts CSV outputs into RDF triples for integration into linked data environments and knowledge graphs, emphasizing real-time data retrieval and interoperability.
- How to add location coordinates to Wikidata Items (in Dagbanli)
- Clean-up of problematic Dagbani lexemes: Wikidata:Lexicographical data/Documentation/Languages/dag#Maintenance_tasks (in Dagbanli)
- How to link Wikidata Items to Wikipedia Articles
- Best Practices to editing Dagbani Lexemes on Wikidata
- Podcasts
- Could making Wikidata 'human' readable lead to better AI?: Lydia Pintscher (WMDE), Portfolio Lead Product Manager at Wikidata Deutschland, discussed a new project aimed at making Wikidata more 'human' readable for Large Language Models (LLMs), which could improve AI reliability by giving these models access to high-quality, human-curated data from Wikidata.
- Notebooks
Tool of the week
- Elemwala (এলেমওয়ালা) (https://elemwala.toolforge.org): is a proof-of-concept interface that allows you to input abstract content and get natural language text in a given output language. There may well be errors with particular inputs, and the text may not be quite as natural as you might expect, but that's where your improvements to your language's lexemes, other Wikidata items, and the tool's source code come in!
- mlscores: Tool for calculating multilinguality score of Wikidata items (including properties). E.g. for Wikidata (Q2013), the scores are - en: 99.66%, fr: 89.49%, es: 84.07%, pt: 68.47%. For instance of (P31), the scores are - en: 99.86%, fr: 87.12%, es: 80.83%, pt: 61.37%.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Launch of WikiProject Deprecate P642: The goal of this project is to prepare for deprecation, and eventual removal, of the property of (P642). Currently, of (P642) is labeled as "being deprecated", meaning its use is still allowed, but discouraged. From a peak of around 900,000 uses, the property now has around 700,000 uses (see status here). Our goal is to reduce that as much as possible in a systematic way, while ensuring that appropriate properties exist to replace all valid uses of of (P642). The latter is key to officially deprecating the property. Before removing the property, we want to get as close to zero uses as possible.
Newest properties and property proposals to review
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes:
- characteristic of ((qualifier only) statement value is a characteristic, quality, property, or state of this qualifier value)
- has kanji reading (phonetic reading or pronunciation of the kanji)
- publication type of scholarly work (Publication type of scholarly work)
- leased to (person or organisation that holds or was granted a lease on the subject)
- magazine capacity (number of projectiles or objects in the magazine feeding a weapon or tool)
- External identifiers: Newgrounds submission ID, Storia della civiltà europea ID, Encyclopedia of Brno History literature ID, Linked Open Vocabularies ID, Ontobee ID, typeset.io journal ID, NooSFere editorial collection ID, pomniky.npmk.cz ID, Dictionary of guerrillas and anti-Franco resistance fighters ID, e-LIS publication ID, GameReactor company ID, Latgales dati person ID, FantLab artist ID, RedBA Granada authority ID, NWIS site ID, MetalTabs.com band ID, Koha Kütüphane ID, HA! artwork ID, France television program ID, Radio France program ID, Grand Est inventory ID, Norwegian Media Authority's film rating ID, Historical Encyclopedia of Siberia ID, Münzkabinett ID, MyWaifuList character ID, Kramerius of Czech Digital Library UUID, European Parliament document ID, Western Australian Biographical Index, beniabbandonati (detailed sheet) ID, beniabbandonati (summary sheet) ID, Biblioteka Nauki article ID, Biblioteka Nauki journal ID, Biblioteka Nauki book ID, Biblioteka Nauki publisher ID, PNM Middle Kingdom and New Kingdom person ID, DDB person ID, CIRDOC publication ID, CIRDOC author ID
- General datatypes:
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes:
- chemical formula (Description of chemical compound giving element symbols and counts)
- mode of reproduction (ways for living organisms to propagate or produce their offsprings)
- health points (health or armor points of this video game, board game or role-playing game character)
- damage (damage value of this video game weapon, ability or character)
- male mean age (male mean age in a given place; qualifier of {{P|4442}})
- female mean age (female mean age in a given place; qualifier of {{P|4442}})
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- FAO fungal entity ID (identifier from FAO ontology for fungal gross anatomy)
- TEES ID (Dictionary of Turkish literature works)
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- TDK lexeme ID (Dictionary created by the [[Q1569712|Turkish Language Association]])
- Atatürk Ansiklopedisi ID (Online Turkish encyclopedia created by [[Q6062914]] and [[Q19610584]])
- Eurotopics ID (A database containing data on European media.)
- Stated in unreliable source (used in the references field to refer to the database that is considered a unreliable source in which the claim is made)
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